Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]
Description
My guest today is Jay Hoag. Jay is the co-founder of Technology Crossover Ventures, known as TCV, which pioneered the growth investing category and has backed legendary companies like Netflix, Spotify, and Expedia over three decades. Jay explains how macro factors like regulation have become unexpectedly central to technology investing. He offers his contrarian take on today's market, arguing that consumer internet represents significant opportunity while most investors chase SaaS and AI deals. We discuss investing in new technology versus commercialization, TCV’s evolution from cold-calling to AI-powered sourcing of 11 million companies, and their three-person unanimous investment committee structure. Please enjoy my conversation with Jay Hoag.
For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.
-----
This episode is brought to you by Ramp. Ramp’s mission is to help companies manage their spend in a way that reduces expenses and frees up time for teams to work on more valuable projects. Go to Ramp.com/invest to sign up for free and get a $250 welcome bonus.
–
This episode is brought to you by Ridgeline. Ridgeline has built a complete, real-time, modern operating system for investment managers. It handles trading, portfolio management, compliance, customer reporting, and much more through an all-in-one real-time cloud platform. Head to ridgelineapps.com to learn more about the platform.
–
This episode is brought to you by AlphaSense. AlphaSense has completely transformed the research process with cutting-edge AI technology and a vast collection of top-tier, reliable business content. Invest Like the Best listeners can get a free trial now at Alpha-Sense.com/Invest and experience firsthand how AlphaSense and Tegus help you make smarter decisions faster.
-----
Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com).
Show Notes:
(00:00:00 ) Welcome to Invest Like the Best
(00:05:18 ) Market Conditions and Investment Opportunities
(00:06:57 ) Consumer Internet Businesses and AI
(00:09:04 ) Technology Commercialization Challenges
(00:11:30 ) Public vs. Private Market Dynamics
(00:15:32 ) Growth Investing and Competitive Dynamics
(00:22:34 ) History and Resilience of TCV
(00:26:32 ) Understanding the Firm's Investment Lifecycle
(00:27:06 ) Evolution of Sourcing Strategies
(00:28:33 ) The Role of Data Intelligence in Sourcing
(00:29:41 ) Internal Investment Process at TCV
(00:34:31 ) Challenges and Strategies in Long-term Investments
(00:41:15 ) Reflections on the Investment World
(00:43:48 ) Personal Insights and Final Thoughts

![Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429] Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]](https://s3.castbox.fm/9b/bb/6b/4ac52c0234fa3353453410f0396619f5cb_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450] David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]](https://s3.castbox.fm/f8/e9/e9/501ed471185cac55d338ecebc939c8321c_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Palmer Luckey - Inventing the Future of Defense - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS] Palmer Luckey - Inventing the Future of Defense - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]](https://s3.castbox.fm/92/61/9c/3ef14ac1d8119c8d0ae0494751f52873ed_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Martín Escobari - Inside General Atlantic - [Invest Like the Best, EP.449] Martín Escobari - Inside General Atlantic - [Invest Like the Best, EP.449]](https://s3.castbox.fm/80/f5/f5/4d8e2a639d97b0e57280d47531d2e88aef_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Ari Emanuel - The Anti-AI Bet - [Invest Like the Best, EP.448] Ari Emanuel - The Anti-AI Bet - [Invest Like the Best, EP.448]](https://s3.castbox.fm/d5/58/94/25f61e33ac20e38951a31df84e4500d5b4_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Wolfgang Hammer - The Power of Story - [Invest Like the Best, EP.447] Wolfgang Hammer - The Power of Story - [Invest Like the Best, EP.447]](https://s3.castbox.fm/82/2b/23/2e266b26a9d01d3212f7d5ec12c6aefa1f_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446] Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]](https://s3.castbox.fm/e5/0c/ac/7c9899afaea7486844302adb46b738fd6f_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Kevin Kelly - Be Generous and Unique - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS] Kevin Kelly - Be Generous and Unique - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]](https://s3.castbox.fm/c8/8d/b9/8f509757a85fd4dede8bab63270f4508dd_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Ken Langone - The American Dream - [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY] Ken Langone - The American Dream - [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]](https://s3.castbox.fm/e3/39/fe/aaf54b17386a69fdcf4536be8d1aa585cb_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Karim Atiyeh - Building Ramp - [Invest Like the Best, EP.445] Karim Atiyeh - Building Ramp - [Invest Like the Best, EP.445]](https://s3.castbox.fm/f2/54/c2/24b77c8efe00c210c06d608e5bf28b3123_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444] Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]](https://s3.castbox.fm/5b/47/88/6cf9e2ea19f53ff9ac923ff50788350b36_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443] Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]](https://s3.castbox.fm/be/ba/40/d0dfa9ec737529f2b722a3c99d7913d558_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442] Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]](https://s3.castbox.fm/85/38/de/fe472b0dce5a590df2ffe135bd79886873_scaled_v1_400.jpg)

![Barry Diller - Building An Entertainment Empire - [Invest Like the Best, EP.441] Barry Diller - Building An Entertainment Empire - [Invest Like the Best, EP.441]](https://s3.castbox.fm/f5/92/2d/67beeb87fce4d198322766ba7bce5a67b5_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440] Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]](https://s3.castbox.fm/73/9b/8d/ccf7476cc781732d2b315bc683d31e800f_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Sam Hinkie - Find Your People - [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY] Sam Hinkie - Find Your People - [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]](https://s3.castbox.fm/c3/f1/db/70d7ac6e3a7216d456671b60c59adb254d_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Sean Feeney - Reinventing the Restaurant Business - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS] Sean Feeney - Reinventing the Restaurant Business - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]](https://s3.castbox.fm/81/9f/6c/0e75fa97557a99877561b9ef180d675537_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY] Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]](https://s3.castbox.fm/aa/a4/f5/aad31d19eb3658d3bad1adab1116eeed24_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Joe Liemandt - Building Alpha School, and The Future of Education - [Invest Like the Best, EP.439] Joe Liemandt - Building Alpha School, and The Future of Education - [Invest Like the Best, EP.439]](https://s3.castbox.fm/4d/ef/13/ad062538f6ed01b65a6dc01c954458c2d2_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Mark Bertolini - Performance During Pain - [Invest Like the Best, EP.438] Mark Bertolini - Performance During Pain - [Invest Like the Best, EP.438]](https://s3.castbox.fm/23/9a/2b/aad33e7cbb0ec5809a9882b306aa9f346a_scaled_v1_400.jpg)


